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That do you mean by "working fusion"? This is a weapons research program wearing a very thin figleaf as a kinda sorta maybe possible power generation option. And fusion weapons have existed for decades - so nothing that nivel here.


It's a bit odd how people think nuclear weapons research needs a fig leaf in the US, where overt nuclear weapons funding is about a hundred times more than the government's fusion energy funding.

It seems more likely that scientists used the weapons angle to dip into that massive flow of military money for their energy program.


That may be more likely a priori (after all, much "military" funding is in fact a convenient way for the government to fund R&D without huge budget fights in Congress).

But, ICF is simply not a viable way to produce fusion power, it is far far far too expensive to operate such a device. So, we can only conclude that they are either deluding themselves, or they are in fact doing fusion weapons research (or, at best, simply fundamental theoretical research into how fusion works) - since the same kinds of conditions or forces are what happens inside a fusion bomb.


https://wci.llnl.gov/

Note that in the US nuclear weapons are controlled by the DOE, and not the DOD.


Nuclear weapons tests have political implications outside and inside the US.

It's arguable how much of the NIL is still validating models useful for simulating nuclear weapons vs fundamental research vs energy research. And it’s likely the relative importance of each factor has changed over the programs lifetime.


Isn't this at the NIF? The goal was weapons all along.


So, you have a source proving the motivations of the people who founded it and run it now? Because I argued above that it makes little sense to simply assume that weapons are the only goal, or even necessarily the primary goal.


> I argued above that it makes little sense to simply assume that weapons are the only goal, or even necessarily the primary goal.

You can argue all you want. Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is a government-owned, contractor-operated facility managed through a contract between the LLNS Board of Governors and the DOE's National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). The NNSA in turn works to ensure that the nation's stockpile of nuclear weapons is safe and secure.


None of that contradicts what I said, or explains why they bother doing energy research at all.


This isn't energy research. It's really fundamental research that is directly useful to nuclear weapons.

The funding source being mandated solely for nuclear weapons goes against your claim it's not primarily for weapons.




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