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Yeah but real estate is something even people with seriously subpar IQ understand well, like gold. Its a conservative investment in most places, but risk of losing it is next to 0 realistically, which is something folks like a lot. Those that invested 20 years ago in many cases saw massive returns, in very safe manner. Not even going into airbnb and similar.

Also, if your down payments on mortgage are equal to rental fees, you won't save much renting, you just have better flexibility with moving, something great for single folks but families want opposite. In our case, for example we pay less mortgage than we would be paying in rental for same place (can check easily since symmetrical apartment next door is rented).

I don't want risky investments with potentially better returns for me, real estate is good enough.


You need to zoom out a bit, too much narrow focus HN style can be pretty toxic in age of ai. Tons of folks here have obsessive traits and this is perfect tool to hone that crack in personality further and go deeper and deeper.

Or, in other words, world is fine, will be fine and whatever comes societies will adapt. Don't have kids if you don't want to but llms shouldn't be the deciding factor. Think how late 1930s must have felt apocalyptically in Europe and rest of the world, yet we came through that stronger (and then got weaker but thats another story) and mankind goes on.


Or you can.. you know, sell the now expensive property, buy one cheaper which doesn't have such appreciation, and enjoy those sweet money gained by doing nothing (well almost). If you invested in stock and gained significantly, you should also not be taxed more on those gains (and even more in tax progressive regimes in most jurisdictions)? Wealth is wealth at the end, you gain more, you pay taxes.

I get it, people are inherently selfish, most don't want to give back to society more than absolutely minimum to keep them from prison, and this mentality is way more common in US or most of 3rd world than say Europe. But then don't complain when state institutions like public schools and healthcare are utter crap, something about cake and stuff.


And owners pay taxes on (some of the) assets they have, land being a big one. Hoarding mentality may have been fine for frontier wild west but ain't much compatible with modern societies which are chock full of humans in all the sweet spots.

Expectation that this comes with 0 cost just because it would suit you is a bit naive, innit


And the best part - nobody learns, and people in general won't change their buying habits much.

Nice to see some folks still have spine and all that it brings

You don't have experience from corporate environment. Oracle is very much present, alive and kicking there, in 1000 and 1 little or big applications, sometimes even out of convenience and cost (is you have just 1 DBA team supporting oracle, adding even 1 postgres to production system could be a cost nightmare to support and manage.

And SQL DBs are not going anywhere in next few decades.


Zipcar started in 2000/2001 on Oracle and relied heavily on stored procedures, particularly in billing (as SaaS didn't exist back when it started and was a bad fit for a long time). It took an entire rewrite of the system to get off of Oracle.

I've heard the exact same thing about DB2, Sybase and Terradata over the years. It's not some uniquely Oracle issue.

> You don't have experience from corporate environment.

Thank you for redefining my entire career, in fact, everywhere I've worked at as a developer, if they ever used Oracle either migrated completely away from it or are in / were in the process of migrating from it, including Fortune 500 companies. Which is why I asked what I asked. I'm genuinely curious.


Could it be selection bias?

Perhaps you and employers that happen to stick with Oracle aren't looking for the same thing?


Possible, but I guess my view comes from: Usually startups don't line up for Oracle as far as I can tell, and new companies don't line up for Oracle (I'm separating this from startups because you can have a brick and mortar that's modernizing and bringing tech in-house), so if their customer base keeps leaving and they are only retaining some of their customers... It's not really looking good from where I'm standing. To be extremely fair, I think Oracle has drastically more potential than what they do today, and could even become extremely dominant, but they're not playing those cards at all, and its kind of a shame. They've got plenty of funds to make the JDK and programming in general more interesting, and they would stand to profit from it since who wouldnt want to hire Oracle consultants on their tech if they need key consultants? I know people pay top dollar for Microsoft consultants to get their startups going.

Yeah my hiring into current job (bank) took 6 months. I even quit the previous job, and date of start kept pushing. Job post was still there.

At one point I flatly threatened to hiring agency I am quitting the process if this goes on further, and all was finished within a week or two.

Corporations work in mysterious (aka chaotic) ways. Even though it usually boils down to specific manager being lazy ass.


Your fridge must be a complex place to navigate. We have 70cm wide tall Siemens one and what we have vs what is missing is a question of maybe 10-15s check. This covers 4 people.

Chest freezers would be more tricky if full and could take maybe up to a minute but we don't have those. If you are bad at tracking, make a list.

No, we really don't need 'smart' fridges and people should vote with their wallets.


I did not claim that we need smart fridges, only that I can see uses for them. If you can't see that or if you are too upset to be willing to see it that's your problem.

Don't update anything unless its broken (apart from computer and phone unfortunately). Never connect to wifi.

Literally anything, there is simply no real gain, potential for loss absolute.


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