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PTSD and other results of trauma do not require a memory of the thing happening to you. In fact often people don't remember the thing that caused the trauma.

It's enough that your nervous system adapts to the unsafe environment. It doesn't have to know why.


Oh yes, I daresay. I mean to include that sort of thing with "memories" anyway. The drug might not be physically possible in reality.

I've heard several people say fish don't feel pain. Makes hobby fishing seem less cruel I guess.

I've heard scientists say dogs don't have theory of mind and making a big deal out of some animals that do have some traces of it, when any dog owner can confirm they do. I've seen my dog bury a bone in one place while the other dog watches, then rebury it in a different place when the other dog went home.

I've also seen my parents' previous dog pretend he's closed in the enclosure with the doghouse when neighbors cat approached even when he wasn't. Then when the cat came to their backyard the dog would run after the cat.

It's so obvious, it's baffling to me how science could ever miss it.


Can you have theory of behavior without theory of mind? I think so, almost by definition.

A dog knows that the cat will run when the dog charges. Is that theory of mind?


A dog knows that the cat won't enter the backyard if he thinks the dog is free to roam, but will enter the backyard if it thinks the dog is restricted to the enclosure.

I call that theory of mind, because the dog needs to distinguish what it knows and what the cat knows.


Thats true for any stalking animal, right? They know they see the prey but are not seen, and if seen, they know the prey will flee.

You can have stalking behaviour based on simple ingrained unconscious if-then rules (don't be seen basically).

Showing yourself on purpose to change what you think the other animal thinks your capabilities are is more complicated and harder to evolve as a hardcoded reflex IMO.

Dogs weren't evolving in backyards with periodically opening see-through enclosures.

But yes, I'd assume most stealth predators with sophisticated brains (for example mammals) have some kind of theory of mind. It's just too useful not to have it. Same goes for animals living in complex social groups.


The line is usually "do I agree with it".

That's why old political writing is good - because the politics has been settled by now, most people won't argue 1984 was unfairly criticizing totalitarianism or Starship Troopers are too hard on fascism.

But new political writing is outrageous for half the people, because they disagree with it.


Sci-fi was political from the start, usually far more political than people realize.

It's just that the way it was political back then agrees with your biases so you don't see it as being political :)


WW2 ended with Yalta conference where Roosevelt agreed to Stalin's proposition of giving Poland to USSR's sphere of influence, making Poland (and rest of EE) their puppet state.

Churchil wanted to pressure Stalin to leave Poland (and at least parts of EE) independent and even considered "Operation Unthinkable".

At least that's what I think the guy above referenced.


That's pretty much what happened. Trouble was the stakes were already high, if Starlin didn't yield to a bluff (had one been pursued) it would have been an embarrassing backdown and a show of weakness on part of the allies.

"Bluff" because no one other than perhaps Stalin would have followed through—to essentially extend WWII (this time between former allies).

So pragmatism was the order of the day, thus Poland and EE were sacrificed.


Polish export to US is about 3% of its total export and import - about 5% of Poland's total import. Not much to lose, honestly. We trade more with Czech Republic.

Polish export to EU is 74% of its total export and import is about 60% of its total import.

Economically - whatever's good for EU is good for Poland and US barely matters.


What about the importance of that trade. The US exports a lot of critical things that cannot be supplied from elsewhere. Everyone is heavily reliant on American technology.

So the implication is continue doing that?

I’ve always been told don’t let perfect be the enemy of good, and the journey of 1000 miles starts with a single step.

The lesson here is that you can’t rely on the US anymore. Not for military protection, not for defence procurement, and not for trade or supply chain. That legacy has ended entirely by choice of the United States.

The problem has moved beyond monetary trade value and into existential risk.


Like what specifically? Only services come to mind. Any hardware is produced in Asia, in fabs that use equipment from Netherlands.

Remember International Criminal Court sanctioned for investigating Israeli and American role in the crimes being committed on the Palestinian territory?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnvnl0elz47o

On top of more than 10 already.

Or sanctioned Francesca Albanese, a UN Special Rapporteur, for her work related to human rights abuses in the Palestine.

She can't have bank account (or other financial product), own a property or work in many sectors in countries holding meaningful bilateral relationships with the USA.

So what services do you have in mind? :)


The hardware is produced in Asia but American controlled. its still a dependency on being supplied by American companies.

"Only services" covers a lot of critically important things. Clouds services and payment systems, for example. Even just one American company like AWS could turn off a huge chunk of European economies.

That is just tech. What about fuel? machinery. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/eu-us-trade/


Yes, but services are easier to replace than hardware. And control is something you have, and then you don't have if the country in which you operate decides otherwise (or US presidents throws another tantrum).

Companies use AWS because it is there and others used it, so they got ball rolling. It doesn't mean one couldn't replace it with another service, most probably more pricey one. If there would be some kind of war, then one doesn't need to have servers in US, and European ones are right there.

You can't easily replace e.g. lithium or other metals.

Fuel is problematic, but there are places that are closer that could sell them (middle east, if we ignore current Russian state of mind).

As for machinery, it is hard to guess what kind. Germany produces a lot of it, and I would guess China also.

Not sure about pharmaceuticals.

Generally US is not our greatest import partner, China is. And we have a big internal market also.


That is the kind of discussion where people end up saying "Oh okay, but we can FIRE ZE MISSILES".

AWS will never willingly stop serving the EU, and oil corps will (unfortunately) never willingly stop selling oil. The US govt could force it, but that would be the end of US-EU relations, and probably cause a breakdown of internal us politics.

The US is pushing its hand as much as it can right now.


After decades of globalization, everyone is just extremely dependent on everyone.

I think hardware is a bit complicated by the way. A lot of hardware is also not US controlled. For instance ARM Holdings is British, Japanese, or global depending on how you look at it and quite a lot of vendors rely on ARM's reference designs. Europe also has a lot of important chip designers, but they are more focused on embedded systems and support chips, like NXP and ST Microelectronics.

"Only services" covers a lot of critically important things. Clouds services and payment systems, for example. Even just one American company like AWS could turn off a huge chunk of European economies.

Why European governments and increasingly companies are trying to move away to European alternatives. It all starts small, but e.g. a bunch of governments are already disentangling from Office. The sale of the maintainer of the Dutch DigiD infrastructure to a US company has been blocked (would have happened without any blockers a few years ago). Countries are reducing US arms purchases in favor of European alternatives.

It's like turning a mammoth tanker, but it is slowly happening.

Let's just hope we have critical mass before the right-wing populists take over, big tech has been intensively lobbying them in recent years [1]. So much 'for the people', like they always proclaim.

[1] https://www.brusselstimes.com/1916422/us-tech-giants-allying...


Arm is important, but for R & D. The impact of not having Arm will take a long time to be felt. The same for a lot of the others you mention. Not having a supply or Intel and AMD CPUs would be felt much faster and would be harder to find replacements for.

> It's like turning a mammoth tanker, but it is slowly happening.

Is it really happening? As has been mentioned on HN multiple times the EU's age verification app will only run on American controlled devices. Some countries are moving some things away from US suppliers, buts its very much one step forward then two steps back.

> Let's just hope we have critical mass before the right-wing populists take over, big tech has been intensively lobbying them in recent years

Unfortunately, not only them. As the article says the existing European Commission is already going in the direction big tech want, just not as far. The current British government (a historically left wing party) has also been cosying up to big tech. One of the organisations mentioned in your link has a lot of info on EU lobbying in general: https://corporateeurope.org/index%2Ephp/en/lobbying-the-eu


Arm is important, but for R & D. The impact of not having Arm will take a long time to be felt. The same for a lot of the others you mention. Not having a supply or Intel and AMD CPUs would be felt much faster and would be harder to find replacements for.

ARM doesn't just do R&D, they design full CPU cores. Until recently, Qualcomm's cores were ARM's reference design with their own extensions on top. It's only since Oryon that their CPUs are more dependent (the tech was acquired through their Nuvia acquisition).


> ARM doesn't just do R&D, they design full CPU cores

How is design not R & D? it is literally what the D in R & D stands for!


That reliance is increasingly seen as a bomb about to explode rather than a boon.

US tech financing and promoting far-right parties doesn’t help their case either


> as long as we don't need to be involved in their regulatory or legal regimes

The only reason the trade is easy in EU (and with it non-EU partners) is these regulations. Countries that choose to stay outside but wanted access to our market (like Norway, Switzerland, etc.) - had to accept the regulations. So I highly doubt you'll get your wish.


Cleaning my house is hopeless because it will get dirty again.

Maintenance of democracy takes effort, yes. We knew that from the start.


I'll guess that you clean your house regularly enough for it to be "pretty clean" all the time. Vs. going through cycles of letting it degrade into a stinking mess, then having to do an enormous clean-up, without ever learning to do regular cleaning.

And if you have kids, that you'll have done a good job of teaching them in turn, before they are grown up and have houses of their own to keep clean.


1. they shouldn't even have to work, they should be on a paid leave

2. if they want to work - they should have preferential treatment

3. even if they are not pregnant - their bathroom breaks or the ability to sit down shouldn't be limited by their employer

Reading about American work culture is uncanny. It's like people arguing about css-styling the NPE error stacktrace, and everybody just assumes the null dateOfBirth in the database and 5 levels of backend code without null checks is just how it has to be.


> 3. even if they are not pregnant - their bathroom breaks or the ability to sit down shouldn't be limited by their employer

See most retail workers, and anyone behind a cash register.


> See most retail workers, and anyone behind a cash register.

Yes, but only the people at the "coal face"

The managers in the background toilet at will.


> See most retail workers, and anyone behind a cash register.

Why would people behind cash register have to stand?


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