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Poor Microsoft, what have they possibly done to deserve such lack of faith??

There were a lot of amoral programmers. I'm not saying programmers as a whole are morally untouchable.

But I would say the engineering barrier and the nerd barrier did provide some amount of sociopathic resistance in the world.

Llms are going to enable the absolutely immoral business people to do whatever they want. And that's going to mean enshittification on a massive scale


Well it certainly doesn't appreciate.

And I feel that AI hardware is going to rapidly depreciate faster than even typical PC hardware


A lot of hardware literally has appreciated in the last year or two.

Probably a lot more EPO

scrape the scrapers... all's fair...

How is this not a class action lawsuit?

If we really have intelligent LLMs, then I would guess they are going to inflate their token rates, which when someone sees "token costs" they should think "invisibly variable consulting rates".

I just did a complex (for me) task: I needed to wrap a 2015 build of Dosbox Daum, a 32 bit binary, in an AppImage. Claude kept finding incremental bugs, and I went through two cycles of depletion of my token rate with Claude. It kept getting close, but..... something was off each time.

So I took the Claude output and Chatgippity polished it off with a few more rounds. I then wondered how much Claude was "just showing enough" to try to hook me into subscribing.

That said, LLMs were quite useful, and I learned a lot about ELF binaries, and extracting dependencies. It's the ideal task: a breadth/obscure task that is documented but poorly explained, that I wouldn't have easily been able to do without LLMs.

Anyway, back to the article, do we really want arbitrary-billing silent tasks running? Like AWS billing spikes are bad enough to lose sleep over.

Also, if you want quiet rebellion against AI, developers should shove as much busywork on AI to overwhelm the AI budgets for your orgs, because it is very apparent to me that you can keep the LLMs doing lots of hardening, testing, redundacy, and optimization tasks with larger and larger and larger token windows and burn those tokens baby.


Get a battery


45% of us either rent or live in apartments.


Sure, a battery isn't available to everyone. But I is available for many.

One would have to do the math, cost of battery versus 24kw free daily. But clearly for lots of people the math will work.

A side effect of policies like this is effectively getting people to invest capital to time-shift elec usage. That's good policy. Reducing the peaks in consumption solves other problems.


> A side effect of policies like this is effectively getting people to invest capital to time-shift elec usage.

this means you don't have a functioning government/political system.


Strange anticapitalist stance for hackernews

I know, this doesn't really address the core issue, but is stuff like balcony solar legal in Australia?

Here in Germany, it is absolutely massive and an increasing number of people run their balcony solar with batteries that just feed into a regular Schuko Plug. It only allows to feed in 800W at a time, but there are workarounds for that as well


Why shouldn't that be true practically every consumer home in the world?

Yes, grid scale deployments are cheaper, but I'm generally guessing a lot of the grid scale solar deployments do not price in the grid infrastructure adaptation costs, and I'm not even talking about grid storage.

Consumer rooftop solar is fundamentally democratic: it reduces reliance on centralized institutions for power delivery, Make society a lot more resilient in bad weather and other emergency situations, insulates everyday people from wild variations and petroleum and other consumable energy availability.

Combined with plug-in hybrid electric vehicles, it would enable electrification of 80 and 90% of daily driving without grid infrastructure costs.


> Why shouldn't that be true practically every consumer home in the world?

Here in Sweden nearly all of the electricity bill you pay is concentrated on the winter months when there is literally zero sunshine. Even then solar is popular here. I calculated that installing solar would take around 10 years or more to pay for itself, but I have very little hope to stay in the same house all that time so for me it seemed like a bad investment.

That said, if you live in places where it’s sunny most of the time even in winter, like Australia, then solar is absolutely great, just don’t assume most places are like that.


10 year ROI is what I got quoted on a solar setup. I live in Queensland. It’s very sunny here.


Wow your current electricity must be really expensive... or your solar setup is?? Also the calculation was done by the company selling it, I'm pretty sure that was far too optimistic.


That actually sounds pessimistic to me. My ROI for 18kW solar plus 42kWh battery will be under 3 years.

- Expensive electricity

- Government subsidy for solar and battery

- Much sunshine

- 3 hours free charging daily

Nearly $5000 yearly bill gone. $14000 installation cost post rebate.


With a calculation like that I'd buy solar in a heart beat!

But as I said, my main concern is my winter bill, which I know by asking people who own solar in the region, is almost the same with solar since there's no sun at all (it's not that it's cloudy, it's that the entire day duration is like 4 hours - under which you barely feel any sun heat and in practice the solar output is exactly zero on the worst month and near zero for 4 or so months). Hence the very long ROI here, but I agree that for Queensland, 10 years would be a bit too long if you dimension the solar array properly.


You are mere hundreds of miles from cheap Chinese panel manufacturing. The Chinese are going to pump manufacturing oversupply for likely a decade more.

10 years roi is mass scale corruption


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